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<rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title>Eric D. Brown - Technology, Strategy, People &amp; Projects - Latest Comments in Deming had it right 60 years ago</title><link>http://ericbrown.disqus.com/</link><description>Eric D. Brown - Technology, Strategy, People &amp; Projects</description><atom:link href="https://ericbrown.disqus.com/deming_had_it_right_60_years_ago/latest.rss" rel="self"></atom:link><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 21:52:23 -0000</lastBuildDate><item><title>Re: Deming had it right 60 years ago</title><link>http://ericbrown.com/deming-had-it-right-60-years-ago.htm#comment-457596297</link><description>&lt;p&gt;John - Thanks for the comment.  I agree that we don't need new "fancy" ideas...just execute better.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Great blog BTW.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Eric Brown</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 21:52:23 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Deming had it right 60 years ago</title><link>http://ericbrown.com/deming-had-it-right-60-years-ago.htm#comment-457596298</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Great post.  I am a &lt;a href="http://management.curiouscatblog.net/category/deming/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://management.curiouscatblog.net/category/deming/"&gt;strong believer in Deming's ideas&lt;/a&gt; and also that most of what is needed is not new ideas but &lt;a href="http://management.curiouscatblog.net/2006/06/10/management-advice-failures/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://management.curiouscatblog.net/2006/06/10/management-advice-failures/"&gt;better execution of ideas that have been around for a long time&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">John Hunter</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 21:49:13 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Deming had it right 60 years ago</title><link>http://ericbrown.com/deming-had-it-right-60-years-ago.htm#comment-67602614</link><description>&lt;p&gt;John - Thanks for the comment.  I agree that we don't need new "fancy" ideas...just execute better.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Great blog BTW.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Eric Brown</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:52:23 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Deming had it right 60 years ago</title><link>http://ericbrown.com/deming-had-it-right-60-years-ago.htm#comment-67602615</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Great post.  I am a &lt;a href="http://management.curiouscatblog.net/category/deming/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://management.curiouscatblog.net/category/deming/"&gt;strong believer in Deming's ideas&lt;/a&gt; and also that most of what is needed is not new ideas but &lt;a href="http://management.curiouscatblog.net/2006/06/10/management-advice-failures/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://management.curiouscatblog.net/2006/06/10/management-advice-failures/"&gt;better execution of ideas that have been around for a long time&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">John Hunter</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:49:13 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Deming had it right 60 years ago</title><link>http://ericbrown.com/deming-had-it-right-60-years-ago.htm#comment-457596293</link><description>&lt;p&gt;You are welcome Charles. It always amazes me to be able to go back to some of the 'original thinkers' and realize how relevant their ideas still are today.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Eric Brown</dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 15:36:40 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Deming had it right 60 years ago</title><link>http://ericbrown.com/deming-had-it-right-60-years-ago.htm#comment-457596291</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Eric, thanks for this post.  How timely to go back to the basics of Deming, particularly at a time when arms-length, "objective" contracting is at an all-time high.  These days there are clients who seem to feel that "trusted relationships" between seller and buyer are code words for cozy, illicit, price-fixing agreements.  They find their natural allies in those who preach the cost-cutting value of increasing reliance on contracts, and of kicking things to purchasing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There's nothing wrong per se with buying through purchasing, but the motives for going there are often suspect.  (And, by the way, it makes for a very tough job for purchasing to deliver on--"find the low-cost provider and make sure they've got high quality.").&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think it's worth noting your comment that "I cannot think of a single organization that has awarded a contract based on the lowest price and has not suffered in the end."  I'm not sure I have either; certainly it's rare in any case.  And therein lies a lesson.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Charles H. Green</dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 15:27:50 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Deming had it right 60 years ago</title><link>http://ericbrown.com/deming-had-it-right-60-years-ago.htm#comment-67602613</link><description>&lt;p&gt;You are welcome Charles. It always amazes me to be able to go back to some of the 'original thinkers' and realize how relevant their ideas still are today.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Eric Brown</dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:36:40 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Deming had it right 60 years ago</title><link>http://ericbrown.com/deming-had-it-right-60-years-ago.htm#comment-67602612</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Eric, thanks for this post.  How timely to go back to the basics of Deming, particularly at a time when arms-length, "objective" contracting is at an all-time high.  These days there are clients who seem to feel that "trusted relationships" between seller and buyer are code words for cozy, illicit, price-fixing agreements.  They find their natural allies in those who preach the cost-cutting value of increasing reliance on contracts, and of kicking things to purchasing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There's nothing wrong per se with buying through purchasing, but the motives for going there are often suspect.  (And, by the way, it makes for a very tough job for purchasing to deliver on--"find the low-cost provider and make sure they've got high quality.").&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think it's worth noting your comment that "I cannot think of a single organization that has awarded a contract based on the lowest price and has not suffered in the end."  I'm not sure I have either; certainly it's rare in any case.  And therein lies a lesson.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Charles H. Green</dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:27:50 -0000</pubDate></item></channel></rss>